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« Reply #135 on: November 19, 2007, 01:31:03 AM »

I wonder what is the most complicated and difficult language on earth???? Anyone has opinion? I think its Chinese. First, one word can be pronounced in many different ways depending on the dialects. Second, u must master how to write the words, which is more like calligraphy and pictograph. Third, it's not easy to pronounce correctly. Even I, can not (coz my tongue is too stiff already owing to Indonesian language - duh!)
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« Reply #136 on: November 19, 2007, 06:52:54 AM »

@Endy: I agree! Also, when a word is pronounced with the wrong intonation, it could mean something very different. In fact, every vowel sound has 4 different intonations. There are also some Chinese words that are written the same way, but has different pronunciation and same meaning. In short, Chinese (written, especially) is a darn complicated language!
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« Reply #137 on: November 19, 2007, 07:46:26 AM »

I really think there is no single "most difficult" language.  It really depends on what you learn first.  If you live in China, grow up speaking Chinese, use it everywhere, it won't be "hard" for you.  But if you then try to learn English (which is one of the weirdest, most random languages to exist), you'd probably have a hard time.  On the other hand, if you're from  Western country, like Germany or England or something, you'll probably have an easy time learning other Western languages besides your own, but ones like Chinese or Japanese might seem very difficult. 

Also...I'd think languages like Swahili would be even more difficult to adjust to.  Especially because they use sounds we do not, such as tongue clicks, and they do not place vowels between all their consonants.  Or Arabic, in which there AREN'T any vowels. 
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« Reply #138 on: November 19, 2007, 07:58:22 AM »

Well, Arabic has vowels, they are only noted differently in their written language. Hebrew also tends to leave out vowels in written language - that's why you have transliterations Jehova or Jahwe which are both written the same way in their alphabet.

And about not having vowels between all consonants - for that you can also see German or Polish or Russian. In German you have words like Strahl or Schmied or Pflock. For Russian or Polish I leave the examples to the native speakers ^_^
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« Reply #139 on: November 19, 2007, 10:14:34 AM »

@AE: Yes, I agree to ur view. It's just kinda weird. I'm a Chinese but can hardly speak and write in CHinese well (since I was born and raised in Indonesia) but I manage to master English much better than others (even better than some Americans - duh!) Swahili language sounds 'scarier' than Mandarin!!!! Cheesy
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« Reply #140 on: November 19, 2007, 11:28:25 AM »

Also...I'd think languages like Swahili would be even more difficult to adjust to.  Especially because they use sounds we do not, such as tongue clicks, and they do not place vowels between all their consonants.

There was a comedian who tried to pronounce a Swahili name.  It had an explanation mark in the name!!  !xobile. 
@Shaina:  thanks.  I'll send you some of the lyrics soon.

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« Reply #141 on: November 19, 2007, 12:14:01 PM »

03$ $0m30n3 h3r3 $p34|{ 4n/0r n3r$74n 337?

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« Reply #142 on: November 19, 2007, 12:17:57 PM »

p|-|34|2 |\/|4 1337 5K|11Z!!!11!!

(Although you speak a different dialect than I XD)
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« Reply #143 on: November 19, 2007, 12:40:11 PM »

Ubj nobhg guvf? Jub xabjf guvf ynathntr?

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« Reply #144 on: November 19, 2007, 12:50:16 PM »

Bs pbhefr V xabj ebg13, gbb :C
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« Reply #145 on: November 19, 2007, 01:50:40 PM »

is it Klingon?
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« Reply #146 on: November 19, 2007, 01:51:42 PM »

The first was leet --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet --> Try it here: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/leet
The second was Rot13 --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rot13 --> Try it here: http://www.rot13.com/index.php
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« Reply #147 on: November 19, 2007, 01:55:51 PM »

LOL. I wrote it without a translator XD

BTW Klingon -> nuqneH!  Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam
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« Reply #148 on: November 19, 2007, 02:00:06 PM »

4h! 0n(3 0 937 7h3 h4n9 0 17, 337 1$n'7 7h47 11(7 70 n3r$74n! 7h4n|{$ v4n!

& wow Shaina! You wrote Rot13 without the translator? I bet this is not your first time doing it! XD
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« Reply #149 on: November 19, 2007, 02:01:48 PM »

DaHjaj 'oH QaQ jaj Grin
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