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Question: Saint Seiya or Last Canvas
Saint seiya - 12 (37.5%)
Last Canvas - 5 (15.6%)
Both - 15 (46.9%)
None - 0 (0%)
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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2012, 05:57:45 PM »

Yer what so wrong with a Zeus battle??? And the civil war could be a clue of an Olympus God having a hand in it since in Myth, the Trojan war was designed by Zeus to kill off most of the heroes in that era...

With what Cain revealed about the Gemini's madness, you might not be far off there...Someone's playing games with Athena. And let's face it, even if he's the King of the Gods...no one fits the definition of a trickster more than Zeus (well, maybe Eris, but shut up >_>).
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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2012, 07:10:38 PM »

Nicely said. And in the LC story not everyone is always saying this one is the strongest, oh no wait this one is the strongest. This is the most powerful Gold Saints, oh no wait, this one is the most powerful Gold Saint Wink

And why does no one like the armour designs? For example the fight between Kardia and Rada (the one I'm in at the moment, re-reading the whole storyline) - they are drawn so beautiful and the armours have so many details so I can't believe what is said (however, yes, in the anime the armours aren't done so nicely)


Yeah, buuh for the Steel Saints - no one ever needed them Wink


to me, The original design of the cloth (the form concept), not how the cloth draws ... the original designs of Kurumada, of course, better. Not one of Shiori's design so far can surpass Kurumada's (although Owl's cloth design is so good).


But how it draws in manga, Shiori is better ... How she draw all the gold saints and the three judges are far superior than the sensei himself ...
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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2012, 08:50:45 AM »

Possible Zeus Chapter would be my top tier disliked series (Hades on 2. place, Poseidon on 3. place). Poseidon Chapter was mostly boring for me (anime), with exception of Kanon, but I could accept the-almost-fighting-with-Poseidon Athena. For Hades - I take Athena fighting Hades in final scenes. For Zeus Chapter - I take Athena getting in battle with Ares, for example, maybe with ticky Artemis, Hera, then having some word with daddy Zeus... But I seriously despise Bronze boys in Kamuis. I despise them becoming all-more-powerful-than-thou-cause-you-don't-know-the-power-of-(Athena's)-love, and kicking everyones ass. Sure, heroes fought with gods in greek mythology, but mythology-wise Athena really shouldn't be such a damsel in distress, and half of Olympus gods shouldn't be against her (what Hestia or Demeter could have against her? Greek gods were proud and vain, but not to extense of flame war with goddess that likes them).

Concluding, if Zeus Chapter was about Athena doing important god stuff, it's okay with me. It could even be good! But since it's more likely to be about how awesome Seiya is in his God Cloth, then I think I'll pass and live happily ever after without watching it. I'd rather watch his early fight where his determination, goals etc were real - and where Bronzes tended to think about their fights...
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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2012, 10:13:40 AM »

Some of it has to do with Athena being raised by Mitsumasa Kido, just imagine how she would be if she had been raised by Shion. Cheesy

And since Saori is the Athena of the 18th century holy war aswell, it is difficult to determine how her previous incarnation behaved. Dohko said she did fight Hades to the death though.

Still, i do hope she will bust some moves in the "Zeus chapter". But somehow i don't see the Saints fighting against all of the gods. Apollo yes, Hera yes, Hermes yes, Artemis maybe, Hephaestus maybe, Dionysus no, Demeter no.

Ares is no longer part of the Olympians according to the hypermyth(?), but something tells me he is behind the twins' curse and several of the bad happenings in the Sanctuary.
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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2012, 11:22:02 AM »

Some of it has to do with Athena being raised by Mitsumasa Kido, just imagine how she would be if she had been raised by Shion. Cheesy

And since Saori is the Athena of the 18th century holy war aswell, it is difficult to determine how her previous incarnation behaved. Dohko said she did fight Hades to the death though.

Still, i do hope she will bust some moves in the "Zeus chapter". But somehow i don't see the Saints fighting against all of the gods. Apollo yes, Hera yes, Hermes yes, Artemis maybe, Hephaestus maybe, Dionysus no, Demeter no.

Ares is no longer part of the Olympians according to the hypermyth(?), but something tells me he is behind the twins' curse and several of the bad happenings in the Sanctuary.

Athena will have her time to shine. She did face Hades alone at first (though, since he was in his real body, she ended up at a disadvantage. Though, once Seiya saved her, she did deliver the killing blow, working with the Bronzes). Plus, she lead Shun up to Olympus, and threatened to take on the Satellites herself to get an audience with Artemis, and got in Artemis' face about helping her. Then she ran off to face Chronus (though sadly, nobody was winning that one; he sent her Aegis Shield through time, and cracked her Cloth...). Her being baby-fied just screwed her over right now, but come Olympus, she'll be ready to kick some ass.

As for the gods, you're right. Odds are, some will side with her (or at least test her, ala Aldebaran). I bet Hephaestus will be the ones to upgrade/repair Athena's Cloth and the Bronzes to a level worth fighting high level gods. Also, I wonder if we'll end up seeing Hestia, despite her having left Olympus. Or if she'll be there in place of Dionysus.

As for Ares being the one responsible for the Sanctuary shenanigans, I wouldn't mind that at all. Vengeance for him being defeated? Sounds fun.
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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2012, 11:29:21 AM »

Hera, Ares, Zeus take your pick... Wink

Athena is doing something for real is why I want Zeus battle in the first place... I want new characters to show up... I don't think Seiya and boys would doing everything...
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« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2012, 01:10:26 PM »

A Zeus chapter could be great... more characters and armors... epic battles... Athena should fight too... XD
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« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2012, 08:56:40 PM »

In my opinion, yes I think that Zeus Chapter could be a story of dillema, misunderstanding & prejudice among (some Olympus) Gods toward Athena credibility over the Earth & his dearly saints' great sin due to the recently Holy War as an effective trigger where Zeus as the leader has to decide what 'the best for all' and while one or two ambitious god/goddess(e/s) stabbing in the back.


To me (if it happens in the future), Zeus Chapter isn't a real battle/war story, maybe just a story of Athena Saori regaining her rightful position before Zeus and the Olympians, plus his saints redemption.


If we want the ultimate battle story, the Titans War chapter will be THE ONE ... but ...  ... even Zeus Chapter realization is still in BIG question ...   


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Well , If I'm not mistaken, Kurumada had said (forget when and where) that at first he planned Zeus Chapter to be three part movies and continue it with Titans Chapter, but because he disappointed with The Overture movie story, he cancelled it ... Correct me If I'm wrong ... Can't hope for a real epic battle and character developments in such a short three 45-minute movies if that happen ...

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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2012, 08:36:27 PM »



This volume, like metal pieces of the Kurumada's draw that I love. Seems much more real than the anime ones.
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2013, 07:55:35 AM »

i like them both..
saint seiya is an amazing anime... i dont think there is much explaining needed for this. between the two, saint seiya had much much more action in it.. but after the sanctuary arc it doesnt show the "human" sides of the characters and their life much.. thats one thing that disappointed me.. in the begining you see the bronze saints in the normal world, they use saoris technology and money for their needs.. but after the sanctuary arc that stopped..

Lost canvas, has a rather different art style than the original, but in a good way. the art is amazing. there are less fights in lost canvas, and another thing is that Athena isnt a danger and they dont have to save her with a time limit. you see sasha working alongside the saints in war. it shows that how the character develop and became stronger not by will power alone, you see tenma losing fights and others caming to help him.. the character development is really good and well done.. lost canvas has more emotional twists and better reasons for the bronze saints efforts and fightings.. Lost canvas shows more of the "human" side.. and that is what i extremely love about it..
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