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« Reply #120 on: August 27, 2008, 04:53:18 PM » |
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Gomess, well, a clause sounds good to me if only for organization's sake. As for the timeline, I think that's a good idea, but I'd like to expand on that by suggesting two versions of the timeline: a simple one for the front page, and then a more detailed one under its own page. So the timeline is: Hypermyth -> LC / ND -> Episode G -> Anime / Manga -> Gigantomachia. Hey Mu, any chance I could read the Gigantomachia and the Hypermyth online somewhere?  I remember reading the Hypermyth a long time ago (98? 99? Oh man..) and I was fascinated by it. Wish I had saved the page! 
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« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2008, 01:16:50 AM » |
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...But they're novels, there's no pictures. Unless you mean the covers, which were just reprints, and so don't really count. I'm sure I read somewhere reliable that they take place between Poseidon and Hades.
Then again, I could be even wronger than I thought. =p Can anyone prove Gigantomachia's place, either way...?
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« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2008, 01:49:08 AM » |
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I just glanced over Gigantomachia real quick, and, wait a minute, it seems to follow its own continuity because Seiya is no longer comatose in that story. So unless something puts him back in the wheelchair at the end of the novel, Tenkai-hen can't directly follow it. Hmmm. Checking up on Seiyapedia, and it like a lot of new pages have spun up -- Shunrei, Tatsumi, Saori, Shaina. Very exciting stuff. So who's the new contributor? 
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« Reply #125 on: August 28, 2008, 02:48:25 AM » |
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I'm sure Gigantomachia makes reference to Poseidon, as if it follows it; I'll have to check that out. But it doesn't follow Hades, that much I'm sure of.
And I know the Saori article, at least, was added by my number one gal, who's not a board member, but hey. She informs me she fixed some broken links too, but I haven't checked what... Still, the 'Pedia's growing, huh? ^^
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« Reply #127 on: August 28, 2008, 09:44:19 AM » |
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Guys! Many pictures are used even Sanctuary Chapter and Hades Chapter ones but the *text* itself specifically describes the Hades Chapter Version Bronze Pegasus. The novels are outside stories like The Cygnus Story Manga, just because Hyoga is not in the coma doesn't mean the story don't have happen after Sanctuary. Hyoga didn't learn Aurora Execution 12 Temple Chapter, Masami purposely ignores the coma thing to do the outside manga. For Gigantomachia novels, it's the same, the story ignores the Seiya cosmo/life energy sealed thing, but still the story happens after Hades. He didn't get that Cloth until Hades Chapter! It just a comic book technique so the writer/mangaka can write more stuff, you dig?  About the Poseidon reference, the novel talks about the Poseidon in the Hypermyth, not the Poseidon in the Poseidon Holy War that Seiya fought with. If you are talking about the Adverts for the novels, mentioning 'Poseidon Era', I have seen them but those adverts are filled with errors. It claims there is a new character name 'Ra-nia', any body who has read the novels knows there's *no Narina* character, I think they mean Yuri of Sextants Bronze.  Gomess, Hope this helps... 
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« Reply #128 on: August 28, 2008, 11:12:14 AM » |
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Welllll, I own the novels myself, and don't see any reference to the Hades armour. Care to give a specific quotation...?
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« Reply #130 on: August 28, 2008, 11:42:33 AM » |
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That is more conclusive. But I fail to see how that's proof enough that Gigantomachia takes place after The Hades, when Hyoga's Cloth in the Cygnus Story (which was written and drawn by Kuruman himself) is no proof that it occurs before Camus' death.
The Hades version of the Pegasus Cloth would've been the most recent then, yes, so Gigantomachia's author probably would've used it for the sake of familiarity; that's all it means, really. Why should a Cloth be more of a determining factor in when a story happens than the fact Seiya can use his legs...?
But now I'm thinking if we can't even conclusively prove when Cygnus Story takes place, there's very little point trying to do the same with Gigantomachia. They should both remain as simple "Gaiden", as far as I'm concerned now. Who's with me...? >_>;
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« Reply #132 on: August 28, 2008, 12:04:26 PM » |
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Look, I don't want to go in circles with you but the argument you just made can also be used to argue that you can't claim that the novels takes place after Poseidon and before Hades. Yeah, that's what I mean; I realised it'd be better to not try forcing things like Gigantomachia and Cygnus Story into the timeline; just like the movies. Even Heaven Chapter~Overture, an explicit sequel to Elysion, is technically a Gaiden, because Kuruman didn't like it... It's all just too complex to try forcing it. But, I still stand by not using terms like "canon" or "non-canon" at ALL in Seiyapedia. I think we're on the same wavelength, really.
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