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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2008, 12:38:41 PM »
@Raven: Yes I know that there's Bu Si in romanization. But when u pronounce it in Mandarin tongue, the B is voiced as P. I knwo it coz Im Chinese and I speak Mandarin at home :D The word Si in romanization is actually voiced as She in Mandarin tongue. I dont know who and why those P mandarin sound is romanized into B.

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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2008, 12:49:06 PM »
The accepted translation for Bush is Bu Shi. 
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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2008, 01:15:00 PM »
Bu Shi still gives a very Teletubby name for my hears... ;D

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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2008, 01:19:09 PM »
Ah. That works, too. I was thinking something along those lines. What tones?

Bu Shi still gives a very Teletubby name for my hears... ;D

xDDD The Mandarin Chinese pronounciation sounds a bit like "Boo! ...shhhhhhh...". Well, except with tones.

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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2008, 03:13:29 PM »
Does chinese names you have to pronouce by letters? ???

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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2008, 03:59:05 PM »
No. 

Keep an open mind--sometimes letter sounds are different in other languages. 

Chinese is actually not supposed to be conducted in romanization--you will be very confused without the characters to clarify all the homonyms. 
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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2008, 03:13:07 AM »
@AE: Yes, I know :D It's Bu Shi in formal romanization characters but sounds like 'pussy' in Mandarin tongue LOL Non Chinese will pronounce B like ENglish B but actually it's pronounced like English P :D ROmanization always gets me confused coz by nature I will pronounce it in Indonesian tongue (duh!)

@BudAlcor: What u mean 'by letters' ? In Chinese, words are made up by compund-letters. Each compound letter/word has 1 meaning.




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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2008, 07:50:58 AM »
Endy: Your mandarin must not be very standard then.  Because the B in Bu is not really pronounced like a P.  It's more of a soft B, like an English B without the guttural undertone. 
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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2008, 06:32:04 PM »
Did chinese and japanese evolve from the same language? Ive always wondered because even though they are greatly different in sound and some characters, (don't they use some of the same ones?) they still seem very similar. Ive always wondered and thought someone here might know.

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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2008, 07:58:21 PM »
@AE: Err... Yes I know that it's not literal P but it sounds like P to me and my Indonesian Chinese tongue. On the other hand, the romanization of P sounds like P plus H in Chinese. In Indonesian, 'Ph' is like sounding P with emphasized breath. Romanization really doens;t work for me. Indonesian tongue is indeed much stiffer than English tongue. I guess the sound of pronounciation differ for people with different mother-tongue. WHen I said Bush = Pussy, I meant that it sounded like Pussy :D And I know it's not 'Si' sound at the end, but rather like 'She' (not she in English)

@Kiza: Yes I believe so. Coz the Japanese still maintain some complicated Chinese words. I believe that the modern Japanese wre Chinese ancient people. SInce the native inhabitant of Japan is Ainu people.

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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2008, 08:22:44 PM »
Wow and I wanted to learn at least Japanese :-[. its more complicated that I thought. No Chinese better start ASAP.

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2008, 08:55:31 PM »
Yeah, it's my dream to learn Japanese. I've learned a few phrases from watching anime, but it's not even enough for me to get by on a visit to Japan. But that's my goal. I will visit some day.

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Re: Chinese names
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2008, 09:02:38 PM »
yeah, I wish to learn japanese as well.  but now that I found that I want my field of study to be south Asia, I guess Japanese won't help me much. XD

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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2008, 09:06:31 PM »
Yeah, it's my dream to learn Japanese. I've learned a few phrases from watching anime, but it's not even enough for me to get by on a visit to Japan. But that's my goal. I will visit some day.

Me too. I know some phrases but I understand it more that speaks it.  The thing I learned are from the TV.  Thank wehave satellites.

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2008, 08:48:15 AM »
Kiza_Takenma: I don't know if one can say Chinese and Japanese evolved from the same language. 

Chinese is still Chinese.  Chinese did not evolve from Chinese, really, because the language is mostly still the same as the language when Japanese borrowed stuff from it. 

Japanese had their own spoken language for a while, and then they visited China, and realized, hey, writing is cool!  So then they borrowed China's kanji (did some simplifying), and also borrowed some Chinese pronunciations for things they may not have had before.  Later, when China decided to simplify its characters, they did look at Japanese simplifications, and even used a few. 

However, saying that they evolved from the same language is not really quite on par.  Japanese is part its own, and partly borrowed Tang dynasty Chinese.  Chinese is pretty much the same as it was then, even if simpler (and often longer) phrasing is used nowadays. 
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